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Ashen
April 3rd, 2013, 03:05 PM
Those of you that were around 6mo to a year ago might remember a site being made for WVZ and others that felt the need for a different site for various different reasons OP is mention in other threads in this section as well as in the old posts from last year..

I'm officially opening this to weres and therians that are interested - a new forum -- not sure how active it'll end up, I'd like to keep adding to it as well a more uniform site with a store for animal/spirituality related crafts and gemstone jewelry, but want to officially 'open' for members to come and join. Otherkin accepted but mostly for weres & therians, no offense meant in anyway, feel free to read the posts leading up to the creation of this site and if you still have questions just ask.

Forest Horizon is a new forum site for were-beasts and therians, aiming for a supportive, community feel, with a large section on offline community activities such as DIY projects, gardening, hiking, howls etc. This is not the forum for new therians to ask the why, how’s, and every other newbie question; there are plenty of other forums for that, members will answer questions if you want to ask but Forest Horizon is more of a place where members can talk about their lives, goals for the future, and real time community gathering & progression, ; to create communication and friendships, without the majority of the forum being soul seeking questions

Also as an FYI since it's my forum I don't hide the fact that I believe there to be a difference between people who are the animal and people who just identify or have a connection to the animal, no one is better than the other but there is a difference, I'm not the only one that's noticed it -- original post has more info if needed. I as well as some members prefer to used the older term 'were'. Under the Rules and articles section.. read the articles, if you don't agree with points made the site might not be for you.

http://werebeastcommunity.proboards.com/index.cgi

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p318/ashenspirit/Website/e8808c17-0f7c-4a5c-90fa-9cba6e59006c_zpse4f78aca.jpg

yourdeer
April 3rd, 2013, 03:50 PM
I think the idea for a forum more devoted to community and "real life" activities beyond just discovery and such is great - what a nice thing to encourage!
But I don't think I'd really fit in so well... the "three types of were" doesn't really encompass how I feel about myself (since I am neither spiritual nor species-dysphoric) so I'm guessing I'd be out of place in a forum where therianthropy is defined in more black-and-white ways.

Still, I think you guys are encouraging some cool stuff with the focus on hiking, gardening, crafts, and such - the latter two are my favorite activities at the moment! So good luck to you on the new forum, I hope it does well.

Savage
April 3rd, 2013, 04:37 PM
That's great! Feel free to point folks to it from here.

Cloudfoot
April 3rd, 2013, 05:07 PM
I think it's a wonderful idea, and I'd love to sign up. I tried to, but it wouldn't let me get past not entering the "gender" option. Please either make it optional, or have a third item on the drop down list that says "other".

Ashen
April 3rd, 2013, 05:11 PM
I'll try but that might be a proboards thing, in which case I'll contact them about it, I'm pretty new to website stuff. :)

Edit - yea I have no control over it, it looks like proboards only offers male or female, I sent them a note but likely its not something they'll change right away.

Lanina
April 3rd, 2013, 05:19 PM
What original post are you referring to?

cheetah
April 3rd, 2013, 06:42 PM
I think the idea for a forum more devoted to community and "real life" activities beyond just discovery and such is great - what a nice thing to encourage!
But I don't think I'd really fit in so well... the "three types of were" doesn't really encompass how I feel about myself (since I am neither spiritual nor species-dysphoric) so I'm guessing I'd be out of place in a forum where therianthropy is defined in more black-and-white ways.

Still, I think you guys are encouraging some cool stuff with the focus on hiking, gardening, crafts, and such - the latter two are my favorite activities at the moment! So good luck to you on the new forum, I hope it does well.

Same, and I have other reasons why I don't think I'd be comfortable there.

Which of course raises the questions of what we do now that the threads on planning offline groups and such are moved.

Somnia
April 3rd, 2013, 08:16 PM
Actually, I fit it quite nicely into the 2nd type of "Wereness" category. Very much rings true for my own experience at least.

I also wish the new forum much luck and that it sees growth in the future.

Savage
April 3rd, 2013, 08:28 PM
It is very much a good thing to have sites with different cultures and atmospheres so that needs can be met for more people. That just isn't possible to do on a single site, so it is a good thing when sites are a little (or a lot) different.

It is not possible to please all of the people all of the time, so the ideal outcome is different sites where different people will feel comfortable, with constructive dialogue and mutual support between them.

Let us know what we can do to boost your traffic!

Velvet Wings
April 4th, 2013, 01:06 PM
I'll try but that might be a proboards thing, in which case I'll contact them about it, I'm pretty new to website stuff. :)

Edit - yea I have no control over it, it looks like proboards only offers male or female, I sent them a note but likely its not something they'll change right away.

I had that issue when signing up also, but decided to just pick a gender anyway. Then once I'd signed up I found there is an option to hide your gender, which I did. So for those uncomfortable with picking either male or female that's an option.
I don't believe proboards let you alter the gender options unfortunately, though I may be wrong.

Savage
April 4th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Just some brainstorming on how we can support your efforts. Some thoughts:

1. You can post stuff for sale here to raise money for hosting, software, etc.

2. Obviously you can advertise for members here.

3. With individual author permission (consider mine granted) you can borrow whatever seems useful you to from here and modify it to suit you. While it is absolutely not our place to tell you how to run your site, you may find borrowing some of our basic guidelines, FAQ's, etc, to be handier than re-inventing the wheel. What works for you, use it. What doesn't, toss it or change it.

4. Likewise while the intent is not for Forest Horizon to end up looking or acting the same as Werelist, you may find it moderately useful not to have to re-invent the wheel over there. We've had more than a decade to come up with working shortcuts to dealing with basic community management issues, and while you should always make your own decisions, your staff can come and get a better look at our process on the Docent/Ambassador forum if you like. Sort of like corporate espionage, only friendlier. ;) So yeah, steal our shit, we don't care, it all belongs to the community and is intended to benefit everyone.

5. I don't know jack about proboards, but maybe somebody here does? Ask away, or recruit for assistance.

Savage
April 4th, 2013, 02:23 PM
Same, and I have other reasons why I don't think I'd be comfortable there.

I'm too busy here to do much anywhere else, so for me it's a moot issue. But that's okay. I want other folks to find their comfort place, so supporting community diversity and different spaces gives more people that chance.



Which of course raises the questions of what we do now that the threads on planning offline groups and such are moved.

In what sense? I don't see anything changing on Werelist. Though if there is already an established site offering a service, say a gardening or hiking forum, our policy if someone asked us to do the same exact thing would be to link over to the site already doing it, to avoid duplication and dilution. Doesn't mean we'll remove our gatherings forum or change anything that's already in place over here, though we might post a sticky link if that seems like a good useful resource.

cheetah
April 4th, 2013, 04:44 PM
In what sense? I don't see anything changing on Werelist. Though if there is already an established site offering a service, say a gardening or hiking forum, our policy if someone asked us to do the same exact thing would be to link over to the site already doing it, to avoid duplication and dilution. Doesn't mean we'll remove our gatherings forum or change anything that's already in place over here, though we might post a sticky link if that seems like a good useful resource.

I'm aware of that. But the primary people organizing the commune/community idea were Ashen, Lenowill, and a few others. Ashen specifically said (I don't have the time to dig it up) that the conversations on the subject would be more happening on the new site.

I think that infrequent information dumps, made by both parties, would be the way to go here.

Ashen
April 4th, 2013, 04:58 PM
I'm aware of that. But the primary people organizing the commune/community idea were Ashen, Lenowill, and a few others. Ashen specifically said (I don't have the time to dig it up) that the conversations on the subject would be more happening on the new site.

I think that infrequent information dumps, made by both parties, would be the way to go here.

There is a section for were-houses but Leno and I have since gone our separate ways since before we moved away from KY - I have no idea what they're plans are or aren't - Last I heard they were wanting to move west, but Leno isn't active on Forest Horizon either. I have my own plans, and I will continue to be a member of werelist to share information on howls or offline community networking as it's needed. As of now -- until people are willing to build offline relationships in a non introvert-we never talk way- the community is just howls. The offline community is still an ideal of mine but after moving and having it not work out.. I'm going to buy a farm (someday) and open it as a permanent howl location.. beyond that I don't see the commitment or funds needed available at the current time to really progress with the offline community plan, outside of me (and others if they want) just getting property and saying come if you want.

I want offline community badly it is part what urged me to start the new site.. but after hearing people talk about it.. the ones that are seriously interested are in school or in a life situation they cannot move away from, which is understandable - I'm in the same situation now but the other people that say they are interested admit that they are introverts and don't want to socialize with people real-time; and having just moved away from having neighbors that never talk or come over cept once every 6 months.. I"m not interested in that.. if someone is going to move to be close to someone, that someone can make the effort to socialize offline, imo.

Natsilani
April 4th, 2013, 06:29 PM
Hm, this is interesting. At first I was skeptical, but after reading a bit I seem to fit in the second of the two types mentioned, the half-and half. I also found the articles about the relationship between therianthropy and Shamanism to be very worth the read. I might register after reading a bit more.

Siverwolf
April 5th, 2013, 07:53 AM
Yeah I'm very happy with the new site. I think it's a step up in the right direction for the community.



Siverwolf.

herringbone
April 5th, 2013, 10:32 AM
I want offline community badly it is part what urged me to start the new site.. but after hearing people talk about it.. the ones that are seriously interested are in school or in a life situation they cannot move away from, which is understandable - I'm in the same situation now but the other people that say they are interested admit that they are introverts and don't want to socialize with people real-time; and having just moved away from having neighbors that never talk or come over cept once every 6 months.. I"m not interested in that.. if someone is going to move to be close to someone, that someone can make the effort to socialize offline, imo.

I didn't know what was going on down there and I'm sorry things turned out this way. :/

I share your sentiments, though I feel lucky that my location in a city is allowing myself and my house the ability to be social, meet others, and have community. I feel lucky that the city itself works for us. We're getting ready to start getting into a CSA and meat share, we have lots and lots of plants now and are mailing them out to people, and even just this week I got some mail to work on a project with someone who is a therian and needs help building something. I wasn't sure if we would be able to build more than a house by itself community here in boston, but, I now have numerous contacts with whom we share food and community and help each other with stuff.

I hope after I graduate and such I can finish writing information about our house and how we've been working slowly to build community. I know lots of people dream of a rural farm, but, for us it not logical (jobs, family, personal preference, medical community on my end) so instead we are making due with our situation. I hope other people can find others through their city connections and online communities like we have. Though I do hope someone in the near future manages to create a therian farm because I would love to buy goods from them and visit no matter where it was in the US. :)

Ashen
April 5th, 2013, 01:12 PM
I didn't know what was going on down there and I'm sorry things turned out this way. :/

I share your sentiments, though I feel lucky that my location in a city is allowing myself and my house the ability to be social, meet others, and have community. I feel lucky that the city itself works for us. We're getting ready to start getting into a CSA and meat share, we have lots and lots of plants now and are mailing them out to people, and even just this week I got some mail to work on a project with someone who is a therian and needs help building something. I wasn't sure if we would be able to build more than a house by itself community here in boston, but, I now have numerous contacts with whom we share food and community and help each other with stuff.

I hope after I graduate and such I can finish writing information about our house and how we've been working slowly to build community. I know lots of people dream of a rural farm, but, for us it not logical (jobs, family, personal preference, medical community on my end) so instead we are making due with our situation. I hope other people can find others through their city connections and online communities like we have. Though I do hope someone in the near future manages to create a therian farm because I would love to buy goods from them and visit no matter where it was in the US. :)


That's excellent Herringbone! I hope things continue to go well and your able to share your experiences to help others to the same thing. I still have most of the same goals, but they got set back a little bit.. One day I will have that farm.. or I'll just be dead. lol But I know what you mean about a farm just not being feasible with current situations.

Savage
April 5th, 2013, 11:08 PM
Though I do hope someone in the near future manages to create a therian farm because I would love to buy goods from them and visit no matter where it was in the US. :)

Have one, though it's currently a pasture rental situation while we live off-premises. All our meat gets raised there, and there is more than enough to share. I can not legally sell our home processed farm meat, but I can share it. Also for sharing are hides, bones, feathers and other farm by-products. Shipping is annoying and cost prohibitive for the most part, however, so visiting would be the better option.

Hungry and local? We can probably fix that. Having too much meat is actually a perpetual problem, though there are certainly worse problems to have in this economy.

herringbone
April 6th, 2013, 09:08 PM
Ashen I do hope you get to move forward soon and find more likeminded souls around you. Perseverance! Your website will be a step in the right direction. :)

Myself and Yourdeer are hoping to do a visit down the east coast to any therians who are willing to take us in the next 2 years. I want to do the SE Howl soon and use that time to visit others on the way. I am always happy to take meat and bones off of someone's hands if they are giving it away/sharing, Savage, and am thankful for your generosity. Hopefully we'll be able to plan for that next spring.

yourdeer
April 6th, 2013, 09:40 PM
Mm, Herringbone said it. We have some nebulous road trip plans that might happen as soon as this summer or as late as next year sometime, but basically the idea is to drive from Boston down (most of) the East Coast and try to bump into as many Werelisters as we can on the way. I'm hoping that we can do at least a trial run this summer and get as far down as Virginia/North Carolina.
When we actually manage to solidify plans and figure out destinations (probably not for a bit, since Herringbone's got to figure out post-graduation job stuff and such first) we'll notify everyone in the Gathering Discussion & Planning section. :)

Siverwolf
April 6th, 2013, 10:43 PM
Have one, though it's currently a pasture rental situation while we live off-premises. All our meat gets raised there, and there is more than enough to share. I can not legally sell our home processed farm meat, but I can share it. Also for sharing are hides, bones, feathers and other farm by-products. Shipping is annoying and cost prohibitive for the most part, however, so visiting would be the better option.

Hungry and local? We can probably fix that. Having too much meat is actually a perpetual problem, though there are certainly worse problems to have in this economy.


Hey Savage, I actually would like to stop by your place maybe this Summer on our way to the beach, if and when we go.



Siverwolf.

Savage
April 6th, 2013, 11:44 PM
Hey Savage, I actually would like to stop by your place maybe this Summer on our way to the beach, if and when we go.

Could happen. I'm not super sociable and I'm leery of having folks on my land I don't know to some reasonable degree, but if we chat before then and meet in a public place first, it's possible.

GrayTooth
April 10th, 2013, 12:20 AM
Interesting... I'll take a snoop around at the new site. Couldn't hurt!


I'm hoping that we can do at least a trial run this summer and get as far down as Virginia/North Carolina.

Hey- you all let me know when/if you head down to Virginny! :)

Also, when talking about trading goods, I'd be willing to trade some homebrew to those of age. I really could use some fresh venison in my life.

yourdeer
April 10th, 2013, 08:50 AM
Hey- you all let me know when/if you head down to Virginny! :)


That's the plan! :D