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Naia
January 3rd, 2015, 02:52 PM
Kinmunity.com

https://www.kinmunity.com (https://www.kinmunity.com/?pk_campaign=Werelist&pk_kwd=op)
Founded: December 26th, 2014.
2.0 Relaunch: September 25th, 2018.

Kinmunity is an online community and resource website serving otherkin, fictionkin, therians, vampires, plural systems, and the other-hearted. It aims to serve as a hub, centered around both the concept of providing resources and social networking. It is known for its friendly and welcoming atmosphere and wealth of features available to its users. While being extremely tolerant of individuals who are new to the concept of otherkin and therianthropy, Kinmunity requires that its members possess a sound and logical sense of their identity.

The main highlights of the site include

Resources

Articles Library
Links Directory
Events Calendar


Community & Social Networking

Forums
Clubs (similar to Facebook groups, members can start their own mini-communities!)
Art & Image Hosting
Blog Hosting
Live Chat


Fun

Bones Economy

Earn bones for participating on the site, use them to unlock add-ons!


Trophies & Medals

Earn trophies for participating on the site.
Win adwardable medals in contests, or buy redeemable medals with bones!




Kinmunity IRC
While there have been many incarnations of IRC networks serving the therianthropy community over the years, to my knowledge none served the general alterhuman (or otherkin, for that matter) community. This fact, along with our internal needs have led us to create Kinmunity IRC (kinmunity.net)



The IRC network, services, webchat, and web services panel are now online and feature complete.
The official site is still being worked on. We intend to create a lot of documentation and guides to help those new to IRC jump in! For those experienced with IRC, we're using InspIRCd and Anope services and all the fun modules that come with them. For those new to IRC:

Did you know that not only could you create your own channels (chatrooms), but can manage them in a much more advanced way as opposed to Discord or other closed platforms? We'll be posting some guides on how to take advantage of these features soon!


Registration on Kinmunity IRC through NickServ is handled separately from registration on Kinmunity.com

This is an intentional design decision; we've experimented with integrated login but felt it was best to host Kinmunity IRC as its own service. Existing IRC users don't necessarily intend to post on forums.



Our official lobby is #kinmunity, would you care to join us? (https://www.kinmunity.net/connect/)
(connection information available by clicking the link above)

Somnia
January 3rd, 2015, 03:25 PM
I'm still rather curious as to what exactly happened with Wulf Howl and why it was shut down so suddenly. I know of a lot of therians/otherkin who felt pretty upset at it's sudden closing with no warning.

Regardless it's nice to know there is a new incarnation of the forums. Hopefully the members from Wulf Howl will find it and rejoin the new forums.

Naia
January 3rd, 2015, 03:47 PM
In November of 2014, I woke up to find that the virtual private server that Wulf Howl was hosted on was deleted without warning. I highly suspect my hosting provider was to blame, although they did not get back to me on the matter when I contacted them so I can’t know for sure. My original plan was to restore the site from an encrypted backup that was generated two days before the site went down. I am extremely security minded and this led to my downfall, as I lost the key to decrypt the secured backups; it’s a keyfile protected with a passphrase, and I lost the actual file. At this point I was left with the decision to either start from scratch or close Wulf Howl. I decided to go with the former, but to change the name since non wolf therians felt very alienated by the name "Wulf Howl".

The experience was very frustrating for me, especially since Wulf Howl was my online home and the only community I felt truly happy in. I have taken measures to ensure this type of thing will never happen again in the future, including:


Automating my backup processes. An encrypted backup will be automatically generated daily sent sent to cloud storage.
Backing up my decryption keys. Both myself and Alynna have the backup decryption key stored in multiple locations both online and on physical media.
Increasing server-side security with a host-based and network-based intrusion detection system, and utilizing various other measures to detect and prevent breaches.
Testing backups weekly. Each week, I will decrypt the latest backup on my local machine to ensure file and data integrity, and that the keys are working.


While I sincerely believe it was our hosting company that deleted our VPS, I am not taking any chances for the future - hence the increased security. Obviously, I no longer use Centarra.

Savage
January 3rd, 2015, 10:07 PM
Well, crap. That sucks a lot. I have every confidence that you will build something as good or better, though. I have no idea if there is anything constructive we can do to help and offer support, but if there is, just let us know.

Somnia
January 3rd, 2015, 10:55 PM
So basically you had no control over what happened to Wulf Howl and it was the hosts/servers fault? That really sucks but it's good to know what happened. Hopefully this will be a good learning experience for keeping up with your backup files.

Naia
January 3rd, 2015, 11:42 PM
I am going to cross post the long version of what happened to Wulf Howl for all who are curious, and I highly recommend anyone who's interested join Kinmunity. I will also be giving away howlnet.org and therianthropy.info domains to anyone who plans to use it in good faith (contact me)



The site was never shut down intentionally. Wulf Howl was hosted for free by a provider called Centarra, as a friend of mine (who is otherkin) owned the company. Several months ago, said friend is no-longer in charge of Centarra but my account continues to work. I assumed that I would be contacted and told to pay for hosting service, which would not have been a problem at all. Instead, MANY months after the company has changed hands, I attempt to access Wulf Howl and it is down. After I am unable to access the server it is hosted on via SSH, I login to Centarra's administration panel and find that the Virtual Private Server that Wulf Howl was hosted on, as well as the DNS records were removed from my account. I immediately opened a support ticket with Centarra, and I never received a response. I do not believe it was a 'malicious attack' on Wulf Howl, but rather the unprofessional action of a money-hungry company.

With regards to the backup, I wrote a shell script in late 2011 which dumps the MySQL database to a file, and sends it along with all the files involved with the site to a secure backup service called TarSnap as well as sends me an email with the log of the backup. The key stored on Wulf Howl's server was valid for encrypting the backups and authenticating to TarSnap and was NOT valid for decryption, deletion, or otherwise reading any backup. I will admit fault here, since I never needed to restore from a backup, when it was all said and done, I had NO IDEA what I had done with the decryption key. This was a spectacular failure on my part, and I sincerely apologize to the community for the data loss. I have been going through all my USB keys and online accounts, and should I find the old database, I will upload an archive version of Wulf Howl accessible to former members.

The experience was very frustrating for me, especially since Wulf Howl was my online home and the only community I felt truly happy in. I have taken measures to ensure this type of thing will never happen again in the future, including:

Automating my backup processes. An encrypted backup will be automatically generated daily sent sent to cloud storage.
Backing up my decryption keys. Both myself and Alynna have the backup decryption key stored in multiple locations both online and on physical media.
Increasing server-side security with a host-based and network-based intrusion detection system, and utilizing various other measures to detect and prevent breaches.
Testing backups weekly. Each week, I will decrypt the latest backup on my local machine to ensure file and data integrity, and that the keys are working.

While I sincerely believe it was our hosting company that deleted our VPS, I am not taking any chances for the future - hence the increased security. Obviously, I no longer use Centarra.


In response to allegations by various individuals:

1. I do not stalk and harass others. As all site operators do, I reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. Individuals that have personally baited and harassed me are definitely included in this. It is a new year and I am trying to start off fresh, so all bans have not carried over to Kinmunity.
2. The downtime was beyond my control, although I DO take full responsibility for losing access to the backup key and it will not happen again.

Regarding the speculation that I started the site over intentionally in order to have new staff, please understand that a restart of the site would not have been necessary for me to restructure the staff team. As most theories of malice proposed in this thread are, that is a bit ridiculous.

If anyone else has any more questions about this matter, please remember that it's better to hear it from the horse's mouth rather than listen to the flies. I can ALWAYS be reached via email.

The social networking profiles of mine went down for an unrelated reason that I would rather not discuss publicly, and it is the same reason my domain registration information is partially hidden. I would be happy to explain to anyone interested via email.

While my conduct outside of Wulf Howl was at times very childish, I am working to improve myself. I cannot ask you all to forgive me - I can only change my actions and hope you see such. Thank you for allowing me to explain, and please email me if you have specific questions.

REGARDING THE DOMAINS:
- I will be keeping wulfhowl.com registered. There is an individual who has the domain on back order and has stated that the intends to redirect it to a shock site. This will not be happening. Wulf Howl's domain and sub domains will redirect to Kinmunity until further notice. In addition, I use shiro@wulfhowl.com as my email address for many services.

- I will be allowing the HowlNet.org domain to expire. If anyone has a good faith use for it, I will give it away (contact me!)

- I will be giving therianthropy.info away to anyone who has a good-faith usage for it (contact me!)

Seraphyna
January 4th, 2015, 09:25 PM
Good luck with the new forum. Hopefully it doesn't fall to the fate of may new places and end up with a small memberbase that eventually falls into not posting and the forum dies. I have a few issues with your "I don't do this" list, screen shots say otherwise...but this isn't the place for that.

Bartholomew
March 2nd, 2015, 03:42 PM
I will check it out. I will say, being a non-canine therian, that I can't really see what the problem was with the old name. A solid majority of therians are wolves, but I've never found them to be other than inclusive.

Barth (Who is now in Colorado)

Lupus Ferox
March 4th, 2015, 11:47 AM
I'm confused.

I thought you were leaving the Werelist?

EDIT
- I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. My mistake. I won't bother you again.

Bartholomew
March 6th, 2015, 12:07 AM
Actually, it was another forum I am resting from. And after having spent 6 months homeless in Ohio, and then a rather hard winter here in Denver, I haven't been posting or reading much of anything. No offense taken, btw.

Barth

Somnia
March 6th, 2015, 12:36 AM
@ Bartholomew - I think Lupus was referring to Shiro and not you.

@ Lupus - To help avoid confusion, when you are talking to a certain member you can use the following format so people will know who you are talking to:

"@ -insert username here-" - "you're reply to the user"

Lupus Ferox
March 6th, 2015, 10:46 AM
Oops... Barth, I was referring to Shiro the other day.
It's like strange, he told us not to return here, then shows up the other day to give us some information about Kinmunity.
I think that was confusing.
I'm sorry, Barth, I should have implemented a name there. I hope all is well now.

Bartholomew
March 7th, 2015, 07:34 PM
No harm, no foul. Pleased to meet you, actually.


Barth

Savage
March 7th, 2015, 08:42 PM
I will be keeping wulfhowl.com registered. There is an individual who has the domain on back order and has stated that the intends to redirect it to a shock site.

To be very clear on this subject, this kind of act is irresponsible community vandalism. Werelist has a very short list of things that you could possibly do outside of this site that would carry over to a ban here. This would be one of them.

Any individual who engages in this kind of behavior is not welcome here as they are a detriment to the community as a whole. It does not matter what your personal disagreement is with a site or an individual; resorting to cyber vandalism is criminally irresponsible, as is maliciously redirecting users who may be minors to a shock site.

If assistance is needed in responsibly redirecting the domains to any actual therian community resource - it really doesn't matter which one - just ask and we'll do what we can.

Areio
November 24th, 2016, 01:55 PM
https://www.kinmunity.com

Kinmunity is an online community and resource website for otherkin, therianthropes, vampires, and other individuals whom have non-human identities. It replaces the now-defunct Wulf Howl. The site is primarily centered around its library and forums, but also contains unique features such as; KinSpots (a map of nearby otherkin), live chat and user-to-user instant messaging and member-run blogs. Like its predecessor, it is known for its friendly and welcoming atmosphere and wealth of features. The site is frequently updated by its administrators in response to user feedback and is considered an online home to many. The site is powered by Xenforo, with customized plugins and features developed by myself.

Kinmunity was founded to be a friendly and welcoming online community resource for otherkin, therianthropes, and vampires. The site aims to help guide those who have newly awakened, as well as provide a friendly and relaxed atmosphere for otherkin in general. While being extremely tolerant of individuals who are new to the concept of otherkin and therianthropy, Kinmunity requires that its members possess a sound and logical sense of their identity.


While I would love to join your community, I'm afraid that I have reservations. A therian forum asking for a real name as it appears on a birth certificate or government ID is something that I am not comfortable with. Is this because I'm using a VPN?

I've submitted an application anyhow, with "I am not comfortable with this" as my real name, and my FurAffinity Profile (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/areio) instead of a telephone number.

Wolf Daughter
November 25th, 2016, 12:46 AM
@areio This blog post on Kinmunity's Tumblr will answer your question about using a VPN. https://kinmunity.tumblr.com/post/149015861004/tor-access-blocked

Areio
November 26th, 2016, 01:10 AM
@areio This blog post on Kinmunity's Tumblr will answer your question about using a VPN. https://kinmunity.tumblr.com/post/149015861004/tor-access-blocked

Aha! Thank you. :-)

Allenfox
May 22nd, 2017, 06:00 AM
Not sure if this will help for anything other than memories, but Website Waback has several Archived Copies of HowlNet website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130719164457/http://howlnet.org:80/

https://web.archive.org/web/*/howlnet.org

(It Certainly has enough Data to Reconstruct the Look and Feel of the Website, unfortiantly the IRC chat client does not load)

AziMWolf
May 22nd, 2017, 11:50 AM
I've been doing alot of research on AHWW archives on Google Groups. I read about a cool group that isn't around anymore called Lycanthrope.Org. Seems it was an early ISP with IRC access, and it was around before Werelist, and other similar sites in the 90s.

By the research I was able to uncover, it looks like it was a very accepting place. I wish more places like that existed now days.

https://web.archive.org/web/20030118164531/http://www.lycanthrope.org:80/index.php3?955670945

-Azi

elinox
July 16th, 2018, 09:34 AM
Poking this thread as I've been having trouble accessing Kinmunity for a few days now. I can't seem to find any updates on places like the Facebook group or Twitter, so has the site gone dark for good now?

RunningRed
July 16th, 2018, 11:37 AM
Playing Devil's Advocate, this may no have been the result of a big mean corporation. Depending on how your friend set up your account, there may not have been any information for the new owners to contact you about converting to a paid service. Had you ever had cause to contact them before your friend left?

A quick web search shows that Centarra Networks (at least, one in Tx) shut down in '15 so maybe the reason they never replied was...they stopped existing.

The moral, dear children, is that sometimes when bad things happen, it isn't a personal attack. When it rains, the clouds aren't targeting us specifically.
Moral two: When you get something for free, sometimes you get what you pay for. :-)
Moral three: Backup everything. :-)

Oxalaia
July 18th, 2018, 03:46 AM
Poking this thread as I've been having trouble accessing Kinmunity for a few days now. I can't seem to find any updates on places like the Facebook group or Twitter, so has the site gone dark for good now?
Actually I can answer that since I have contact with Naia and asked that question. Kinmunity is indeed no longer here since at one point what I believe isnt so long ago the forum activity started to come to a halt. It is now indeed closed since it was dying and activity didnt pick up. As far I am aware of it will not come back soon but maybe in the future for further use. All I know is the domain is still here but the forum yeah it is gone sadly but we cannot change it really since it can happen to any forum.

elinox
July 18th, 2018, 09:24 AM
Actually I can answer that since I have contact with Naia and asked that question. Kinmunity is indeed no longer here since at one point what I believe isnt so long ago the forum activity started to come to a halt. It is now indeed closed since it was dying and activity didnt pick up. As far I am aware of it will not come back soon but maybe in the future for further use. All I know is the domain is still here but the forum yeah it is gone sadly but we cannot change it really since it can happen to any forum.

I knew things were slow there, but I was still posting and so were several others! What a shame. Thanks for the update though.

Kerguelen
July 19th, 2018, 03:34 PM
I was wondering why I couldn't get on there. Ah well, I probably put embarrassing stuff on there anyway. :)

Vintage
July 21st, 2018, 10:05 AM
That's a true shame...I was on a small hiatus from the online community until I started playing around the amino community. I felt like I knew this would happen- I wrote a thread on the state of our online forums on therian guide....and I came back from hiatus to this..I liked that place because it seemed a little more geared towards otherkin. I guess you loose one, you find one (another community).

Kerguelen
July 21st, 2018, 04:00 PM
I hope this place never dies because it's been a bit of a refuge for me.

RK800
July 21st, 2018, 06:57 PM
I'll miss it. :(

House of Chimeras
July 22nd, 2018, 08:32 AM
Yeah. We logged into the other day and it wouldn't come up. Found an update on the website's tumblr stating what happened. Its a shame. There seem to be so few forums about anymore.

- Earth Listener

Anuolf
July 23rd, 2018, 01:06 AM
I'm sad to hear all the resources and posts were just incinerated without the ability to archive or let people grab important posts, info, etc. But then again, I'm not that surprised, considering the history, and the creator's past behavior.

R Swan
July 23rd, 2018, 04:48 AM
Good riddance, I say.

elinox
July 23rd, 2018, 10:41 AM
I'm sad to hear all the resources and posts were just incinerated without the ability to archive or let people grab important posts, info, etc. But then again, I'm not that surprised, considering the history, and the creator's past behavior.

Neither am I. I'm just disappointed because it seemed like Kinmunity was the LAST strictly Otherkin forum still active.

Are there any others I'm unaware of?

cheetah
July 24th, 2018, 01:33 AM
What happened to Otherkin Phenomena?

elinox
July 24th, 2018, 08:56 AM
What happened to Otherkin Phenomena?

The owner of the site hasn't switched over full ownership to me yet, like I requested. She's got two kids now and a full time job, so has little time for internet stuff. Still, I did ask to be made owner and she agreed. She just hasn't actually done it yet!

Seraphyna
July 27th, 2018, 08:52 PM
Neither am I. I'm just disappointed because it seemed like Kinmunity was the LAST strictly Otherkin forum still active.

Are there any others I'm unaware of?

Therian Wilderness is still around (despite the name it's an otherkin forum), but it's very quiet.

RunningRed
July 31st, 2018, 12:33 PM
The lesson to be learned, if it's important to you, don't trust someone else's backup.

That does kinda suck and I hate that kind of attitude, "Hey try and think of other people who might be affected when you do an irreversible decision."


I'm sad to hear all the resources and posts were just incinerated without the ability to archive or let people grab important posts, info, etc. But then again, I'm not that surprised, considering the history, and the creator's past behavior.

Wolf Daughter
August 2nd, 2018, 12:13 AM
A backup of the Library was made available. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxtFfIyYNRnCMjRvdmxXMWlwVFk/view

elinox
November 28th, 2018, 05:00 PM
Against all odds, it seems like Kinmunity is back!

https://www.kinmunity.com/

(Or, if you know that forums' history, not actually surprising as it seems to be purged every other year or so...)

hotdogwolf
November 28th, 2018, 06:22 PM
Taking a look at it now. Nice looking site. Will it be sticking around.?

elinox
November 29th, 2018, 10:20 AM
Taking a look at it now. Nice looking site. Will it be sticking around.?

No idea. The owner seems to intentionally nuke the site every so often.

hotdogwolf
November 29th, 2018, 10:28 AM
No idea. The owner seems to intentionally nuke the site every so often.
That's strange, I wonder Why.?

Seraphyna
December 9th, 2018, 03:37 PM
That's strange, I wonder Why.?

Usually it's because they do something folks don't approve of, or their staff does, so they remove the evidence as it were...speaking from experience.


EDIT: I mean having been a member there based on when it went down while I was a member and soon after I left not that I'd intentionally nuke a forum lol.

hotdogwolf
December 9th, 2018, 08:41 PM
Usually it's because they do something folks don't approve of, or their staff does, so they remove the evidence as it were...speaking from experience.


EDIT: I mean having been a member there based on when it went down while I was a member and soon after I left not that I'd intentionally nuke a forum lol.
Oh great. So drama on the site and I am guessing other ''things'' on there too. And there I was thinking about joining because the site looks beautiful . Must be the landscape shown on there. Sooo, Question to you all is. Should I join it, Can I join it seeing how I'm not Kin.? Are there any Werelist members on there.?

elinox
December 11th, 2018, 12:51 PM
Oh great. So drama on the site and I am guessing other ''things'' on there too. And there I was thinking about joining because the site looks beautiful . Must be the landscape shown on there. Sooo, Question to you all is. Should I join it, Can I join it seeing how I'm not Kin.? Are there any Werelist members on there.?

You can join any forum you choose to. ;) And 'kin includes therians, so you would be welcomed there. There are a few Werelist members there, but as far as I've seen, the forums aren't that active yet.

hotdogwolf
December 11th, 2018, 01:00 PM
You can join any forum you choose to. ;) And 'kin includes therians, so you would be welcomed there. There are a few Werelist members there, but as far as I've seen, the forums aren't that active yet.
I gottcha. I will think about it. Thank you Elinox.

Kerguelen
December 12th, 2018, 03:35 AM
I'm on there. Not as active as before. That's just me though, I haven't been as active on these forums because I've been trying to sort myself out.

Naia
January 26th, 2019, 07:12 AM
Oh great. So drama on the site and I am guessing other ''things'' on there too. And there I was thinking about joining because the site looks beautiful . Must be the landscape shown on there. Sooo, Question to you all is. Should I join it, Can I join it seeing how I'm not Kin.? Are there any Werelist members on there.?
The site serves otherkin, fictionkin, therians, vampires, plural systems, and the other-hearted; as well as others with non-human identities. The site was shut down for a few months due to the following:

The infrastructure was unsustainable - we were left with a wildly broken database after moving between CMS platforms several different times. (XF 1.5.x > IPS 4.2.x -> XF 2.0.x)

The damage done to the database was not easily repairable; records were horrendously broken. There were users who were unable to login, regardless of what changes were done to their account. There were threads that were broken and would cause PHP errors, it was a TOTAL mess.
The only 100% guaranteed clean backup would be before any platform changes, causing a massive and unacceptable amount of data loss. It would be easier to start the site from scratch at that point.


Activity on the site had reached record lows.
Kinmunity had gained a reputation for aggressive heavy-handed moderation.

At the time, shutting down the website truly did seem to be the best option. Immediately after shut down all the way up until the relaunch, I was contacted about people missing the site and wishing for it to return. We intend to remain with one platform. Our policies and rules have been changed to be less aggressive, and we have re-homed the focus of our site.

Hopefully you'll give us another try!

hotdogwolf
January 26th, 2019, 08:53 PM
I gotcha Shiro. I'm thinking about joining.

Vintage
January 27th, 2019, 10:19 PM
I liked the site, so yeah, I rejoined. Also because it's nice to discuss a bit more otherkin related things once in a while.

Naia
March 23rd, 2019, 03:17 AM
I have updated this thread to include information about Kinmunity IRC, our IRC network.